Comments for The Lukewarmer's Way

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by Marty

Marty — Thu, 23 May 2013 21:50:03 +0000

http://rt.com/news/beer-fracking-merkel-environment-710/
Finally, someone with their priorities straight.

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by hunter

hunter — Wed, 22 May 2013 23:09:36 +0000

Roger,
I look forward to seeing the seminar.
The AGW fanatics have already distorted the energy market to at least some degree.
Will it stand over the long haul? I doubt it.

Tom,
When you read this, I urge you to go to Lucia’s and see what she just did to a certain poster who has just made his first(?) post here. He apparently can spam stuff up pretty famously.
Lucia took strong action to protect her blog.
And please do tell us how things are going?

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by rogercaiazza

rogercaiazza — Wed, 22 May 2013 22:21:43 +0000

I think the folks that hang around this blog would be interested in this. In order to get an idea of the power industry’s take on future generation, I recommend this on-demand webinar: Clearing the Air on Air Emission Regulations Part II: The Three R’s: Rules, Regulations and Reactions. Click here to access the webinar on-demand (http://www.powermag.com/whitepapers/ep_environmental_webinar_registration/?hq_e=el&hq_m=2676878&hq_l=1&hq_v=47232edc0a). You have to register but it is free.

Three speakers offered varied opinions on the future of electric generation: a wind energy proponent, someone from a company that has wind and nuclear, and a consultant who looks at the big picture trends. Note that they all pretty much assume that carbon limits are just a matter of time. This discussion reinforced my concern that the current push for renewals is going to have unintended consequences. Many of those consequences are going to end badly for anyone who wants to keep electricity prices low.

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by D Cotton

D Cotton — Tue, 21 May 2013 23:18:59 +0000

Without gravity acting to restore the thermodynamic equilibrium which is stipulated in the Second Law of Thermodynamics (which says: "An isolated system, if not already in its state of thermodynamic equilibrium, spontaneously evolves towards it. Thermodynamic equilibrium has the greatest entropy amongst the states accessible to the system") and thus, as a direct corollary of that Law, supporting (at the molecular level) an autonomous thermal gradient, then ... (1) The temperature at the base of the troposphere on Uranus would be nowhere near as hot as 320K because virtually no direct Solar radiation gets down there, and there is no surface at that altitude. The planet's radiating temperature is under 60K because it receives less than 3W/m^2. (2) The temperature of the Venus surface would be nowhere near as hot as 730K (even at the poles) because it receives only about 10% as much direct Solar radiation at its surface as does Earth at its surface. (3) Jupiter would be nowhere near as hot, even in its core, which receives extra kinetic energy which was converted by gravity from gravitational potentential energy due to the continual collapsing of this gaseous planet. This is why Jupiter emits more radiation than it receives. (4) The core of our Moon would be nowhere near as hot as it is thought to be, probably over 1000K. (5) Earth's surface would indeed be perhaps 20 to 40 degrees colder, and the core, mantle and crust nowhere near as hot, maybe no molten material at all. Think about it! If you're not sure why, it's explained in Sections 4 to 9 and Section 15 here.

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by hunter

hunter — Thu, 16 May 2013 18:25:26 +0000

lol. And we are one of the strongest economies.
And we have great beaches, fisheries, ground water resources, etc.
Enviro extremists are such wankers.

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by JeffN

JeffN — Thu, 16 May 2013 14:21:23 +0000

And Texas leads the country in emissions reductions. Darn Republicans and their evil denial.
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/05/14/texas-a-global-green-paragon/

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by hunter

hunter — Thu, 16 May 2013 10:55:05 +0000

Tom,
This was just posted:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/15/groundwater-unaffected-by-shale-gas-production-in-arkansas/#more-86352
But more importantly, look at the dogs that have not barked since fracking started in 1947. Then look at how the accusations have held up.

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by JeffN

JeffN — Wed, 15 May 2013 14:11:06 +0000

and yet, on Table 5, we learn that people support fracking 54-35 in Michigan and 49-40 in PA. Some schizophrenia on the issue there.
Table 24 was fascinating. By far the preferred source for info was environmental groups with the state government a distant second. The least preferred sources of info were newspapers and the federal government- which score lower than drilling industry groups.
A third of the respondents say their go-to-source of info is eco activists? I hope that’s a signal of a bad survey sample and not a true trend for info sources. I really do.

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by Tom Fuller

Tom Fuller — Wed, 15 May 2013 05:54:06 +0000

Hunter, is there a body of work you can point to of studies done on groundwater, seismic stability etc.,? I know some of the issues are explored during geothermal plant reviews and is applicable, but is there a central resource of materials?

Comment on Long Open Thread and Bleg by hunter

hunter — Wed, 15 May 2013 05:02:31 +0000

Tom,
Wind barely works with large subsidies. Add caging to the windmills would be amazingly expensive and difficult.
The decision is just one example of many of an executive branch out of control.